i got tricked by the abridged version having more hits and coming up first. i want this here, not there.

i forgot to list this as an influence on a track of the day from a few days ago. it's sort of glaring, as the track in question is actually very much a post-punk reworking of the end riff of this. it's a simple riff, but it was always a lot of fun to play.

echoes - and the idea of the side-long track, in general - was also a big influence on the longer pieces (i call them 'symphonies', with tongue somewhat in cheek), going forwards. the merging of blues riffs into larger, quasi-symphonic and sort of electro-experimental pieces is something more specific that i do fairly often, and that stems directly to floyd.

(relevant tracks: idiotic, all symphonies)

obligatory "influential on track of the day" post.

i'm trying to avoid linking to these ancient demos from the mid 90s, recorded when i was 15 or 16 (and demoing tracks i wrote when i was 13 or 14). i mean, the stuff that's up is up because i like it. but there are objective problems with some of it (the vocals on some of it give the term lofi a whole new level of depth).

i've always loved this record and have never really understood why it tends to be separated from the other pumpkins masterpieces. i'd even go so far as to say you can't really understand siamese/pisces (which corgan should really re-release as a double record) without getting into this first. it's a pre-req.

it was the psychedelic portions on the second half of the disc that i found really imaginative. you can hear a very direct influence on the guitar playing....

(relevant tracks: the boogeyman, screwed up, wish, nope, teenage jesus, stress, others)